Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
General
GeneralCardiologyVisionDentistryPharmacyLaboratoryNutritionAlternative
Diseases and Disorders
AIDSAlzheimer'sArthritisAsthmaCancerBreast CancerDiabetesEpilepsyGlaucomaHepatitisHerpesLupusProstate BPHProstate CancerProstatitisSinusitisTinnitus

Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / September 2008

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Who runs the country

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
guys@consolidated.net - 28 Aug 2008 07:40 GMT
In 1951 while in the Army I had a layover in Washington.

A black cab driver wanted to take several of us GI's on a tour of
Washington. Best buy I ever made.

While near the White House  and Blair House he explained the president
is a figure head.  The county is run by the mass of unknown people in
the mass of offices in the city and the lobbyist with the money.

These people are not elected.

It was common talk during the Eisenhower years --the one to talk to
get action was Charlie Wilson,  the head of General Motors.

Charlie Wilson was not elected.  

----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups
---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
% - 28 Aug 2008 07:48 GMT
> In 1951 while in the Army I had a layover in Washington.
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the
> World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

i don't even know who they are but i bet its off topic in this group
UNK - 28 Aug 2008 11:51 GMT
> In 1951 while in the Army I had a layover in Washington.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Charlie Wilson was not elected.  

Charlie Wilson may have been the guy that should have been elected
president...but he would have had to take a cut in pay.
guys@consolidated.net - 28 Aug 2008 15:27 GMT
>> In 1951 while in the Army I had a layover in Washington.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Charlie Wilson may have been the guy that should have been elected
>president...but he would have had to take a cut in pay.

General Motors dominated the car busness then.  The
salary ratio from the top to bottom  was much less then.

The country was growing at a fast rate then.

----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups
---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
John C. - 28 Aug 2008 14:06 GMT
On Aug 28, 2:40 am, g...@consolidated.net wrote:
> In 1951 while in the Army I had a layover in Washington.
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.pronews.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups
> ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

OK, you post that people should read the FAQ from another NG or not
post here. Then, you proceed to post things which have absolutely
nothing to do with diabetes.

If you have a problem with the government, please vent your
frustrations on the many NGs and message boards devoted to such
topics.

John C.
Grandpa Chuck - 28 Aug 2008 20:36 GMT
>On Aug 28, 2:40 am, g...@consolidated.net wrote:
>> In 1951 while in the Army I had a layover in Washington.
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>John C.

John, while I will say this thread should be labeled OT, this has
always been a pretty much open NG but we do ask that posters put OT at
the front of the subject line if it does not pertain to diabetes.

OTOH, it is pretty darned obvious this thread has nothing to with
diabetes. If you are only interested in threads that are confined to
diabetes you may want to pay closer attention to the subject lines.
Signature

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
 ~

DonnaB shallotpeel - 29 Aug 2008 00:44 GMT
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:36:11 GMT, in
<navdb49u6r95ui67tqrh0mac7p5conrp5c@4ax.com> Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> wrote:

>John, while I will say this thread should be labeled OT, this has
>always been a pretty much open NG but we do ask that posters put OT at
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>diabetes. If you are only interested in threads that are confined to
>diabetes you may want to pay closer attention to the subject lines.

Perfectly said. I've just opened MHD & ASD, and today like other days lately,
I continue to find posts that are not about diabetes & are not in support of
people with diabetes, that are instead about the world in general, and they
simply need to be marked 'OT ' or 'OT/ '. I will add that in here.

Signature

DonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*>
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
Current ................... HbA1c 6.3  Byetta 5x2 begun 08-01-08

"When a panel of doctors was asked to vote on adding a new wing to their
hospital, in the end, the proctologists said to leave the decision up to some
a.shole in administration." - Hospital Humor

Ben Skversky - 29 Aug 2008 01:21 GMT
Chuck, it's nice to see that you're still around. Most of the old crowd from
a few years ago seems to have vanished from this board. But I see that Guy
is still posting his inane junk.

>>On Aug 28, 2:40 am, g...@consolidated.net wrote:
>>> In 1951 while in the Army I had a layover in Washington.
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> diabetes. If you are only interested in threads that are confined to
> diabetes you may want to pay closer attention to the subject lines.
Cheri - 29 Aug 2008 02:40 GMT
Ben Skversky wrote in message
<9NOdnQcia5lN3SrVnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com>...
>Chuck, it's nice to see that you're still around. Most of the old crowd from
>a few years ago seems to have vanished from this board. But I see that Guy
>is still posting his inane junk.

A lot of the old crowd is still here, and you should post more than
you do Ben. I hope everything is going well with you.

Cheri
Ben Skversky - 29 Aug 2008 13:16 GMT
I'll be posting more. Good to see your name is still here, Cheri. Is Loretta
still around??

> Ben Skversky wrote in message
> <9NOdnQcia5lN3SrVnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Cheri
DonnaB shallotpeel - 29 Aug 2008 14:53 GMT
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:18:30 -0400, in
<ke2dnbQfYdPKdSrVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@comcast.com> "Ben Skversky"
<bskv19114@comcast.net> wrote:

>I'll be posting more. Good to see your name is still here, Cheri. Is Loretta
>still around??

I miss Loretta! She hasn't been back, for the most part, since she became a
grandmother, right?

Signature

DonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*>
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
Current ................... HbA1c 6.3  Byetta 5x2 begun 08-01-08

"When a panel of doctors was asked to vote on adding a new wing to their
hospital, the podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but the urologists
felt the scheme wouldn't hold water." - Hospital Humor

Cheri - 29 Aug 2008 16:38 GMT
DonnaB shallotpeel wrote in message ...
>On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:18:30 -0400, in
><ke2dnbQfYdPKdSrVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@comcast.com> "Ben Skversky"
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>I miss Loretta! She hasn't been back, for the most part, since she became a
>grandmother, right?

Yes, I miss her too, and yes...except for checking in to let us know
that she is well, she hasn't been posting much since her grandson was
born. :-)

Cheri
Ozgirl - 29 Aug 2008 04:16 GMT
> Chuck, it's nice to see that you're still around. Most of the old
> crowd from a few years ago seems to have vanished from this board.
> But I see that Guy is still posting his inane junk.

I'm still here :)
Ben Skversky - 29 Aug 2008 13:16 GMT
Hey great to see you are still here, Ozgirl.

>> Chuck, it's nice to see that you're still around. Most of the old
>> crowd from a few years ago seems to have vanished from this board.
>> But I see that Guy is still posting his inane junk.
>
> I'm still here :)
guys@consolidated.net - 29 Aug 2008 18:48 GMT
>Hey great to see you are still here, Ozgirl.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>Ben, yo come back to oin the crap game.

The politics I post here are on health care or to
throw cold water on the overdone political nonsense.

The diabetic problem will never be solved by
big mouth demanding people  doing a good job of
perverting a diabetic information group.

Any here for personal.satisfaction purposes should
go over where the child molesters hang out and the
mass of trash issues are discussed.

The health care problems will not be solved  by
the basket weaving degree or the terminal campers
sucking on a bottle of booze.

Technically competent people are humbled by their
understanding of the limitation of the human.

Ben, I am being aggressive because this should be
said.  I have nothing to lose.  

How dare you ding my cold water, anti political
posts.when the group is flooded by the whore
nonsense.    

To mentally disturbed people with a personal
agenda  ---that have found a group to have a ball
nipping at others for personal satisfaction.

Mister, I have had serious problems and do know the
misuse of these groups helps no one. If the trash had not
had their way in this world we might further along with
solving health care issues.

Decent health care is not a political problem  but a
moral issue. Politics is a tool to implement a decent
system.

The communists used to teach that the difference between
a dog and human is that a human will work for the good
all humans. A dog does not have the rights of a human.
What does that make a body that exploits others??

I am very pissed because of the gross misuse of the
intent and charter of these groups. and the covert
misuse of a "group for all".   I can say it sand will say it.

The efforts to shut me up, so some can have a party is
far from proper.   I would never have piped up because
I am very tired but I be damned if some drunken bully
picks on me give them satisfaction..

Chung is so far ahead of a lot that make fun of him.

The goal is to make some uncomfortable since they are
easily  targets. they can pass it out but cannot take it.

God forbid that they share anything.

----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups
---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
DonnaB shallotpeel - 29 Aug 2008 20:32 GMT
>The efforts to shut me up, so some can have a party is
>far from proper. ...

But, it is you who has been the one trying to shut others up, not the other
way around.

Signature

DonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*>
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
Current ................... HbA1c 6.3  Byetta 5x2 begun 08-01-08

"When a panel of doctors was asked to vote on adding a new wing to their
hospital, the ophthalmologists considered the idea short-sighted; the
pathologists yelled, 'Over my dead body,' while the pediatricians said, 'Oh,
Grow up!'" - Hospital Humor

Màck©® - 01 Sep 2008 18:11 GMT
>Any here for personal.satisfaction purposes should
>go over where the child molesters hang out and the
>mass of trash issues are discussed.

guy, you really are one sick twisted son-of-a-bitch.

you truly are not worth reading anymore.

Signature

Måck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/
http://www.pandora.com  enter "Jason & Demarco"
http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

        (o ô)  
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
             ....Bilbo Baggins

DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
.

JC - 01 Sep 2008 22:50 GMT
>>Any here for personal.satisfaction purposes should
>>go over where the child molesters hang out and the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>you truly are not worth reading anymore.

Who actually reads his articles any more - I have him kill-filed
and only see the replies, such as yours, to his rantings.

I don't want to kill-file you but if you keep replying, and
baiting him, then I may not have any option but to do so.
Signature


Cheers . . . JC

Grandpa Chuck - 29 Aug 2008 04:19 GMT
>Chuck, it's nice to see that you're still around. Most of the old crowd from
>a few years ago seems to have vanished from this board. But I see that Guy
>is still posting his inane junk.

Thanks Ben. It's good to hear from you.

Do you get the jokes, etc. that Loretta send out via email?
I don't believe she has posted here for quite some time.

I got involved in the political debate just for kicks and giggles. We
haven't had a good argument here for long time.

I am pretty much recovered from my emergency surgery they did on June
29th. The surgeon took out a piece of my upper intestine about 3 or 4
inches long. He said it was plugged with food. When I asked why he
said I was very dehydrated when I went to the E.R. on my doctor's
recommendation. I asked him if he only took out a piece that short why
was the incision nearly ten inches long. He said he wanted to look at
the rest of my gut to make sure it was alright. Those were the longest
most miserable eleven days of my life that I can remember and pray I
never have to through anything like that again. On the other hand, I
am very grateful to be here and to know I am improving. Laurie has me
walking on the treadmill at least once a day and wants me to increase
it to twice and to increase the time and the speed. She has been
absolutely wonderful to me through this whole ordeal so I do that best
I can to do what she wants to increase my strength and stamina.

Take care my friend and be well.
Signature

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
 ~

Ben Skversky - 29 Aug 2008 13:22 GMT
Great to see that you are recovered & still your old onery self. Did the
Iowa floods affect you????

>>Chuck, it's nice to see that you're still around. Most of the old crowd
>>from
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Take care my friend and be well.
Grandpa Chuck - 29 Aug 2008 21:09 GMT
>Great to see that you are recovered & still your old onery self. Did the
>Iowa floods affect you????

Not directly since we live on the top of a hill.They have said that
over 800 homes are ruined beyond repair. It did effect a number of our
friends. Some have been able to repair the damage, but one good
friend's house was filled with water up to the ceiling. He lost all of
his furniture including his furnace, water heater, all appliances and
the kitchen cupboards. He has stripped the house down to the stud
including the siding and windows because of damage and mold. He is
really hoping that either the city or FEMA will buy him out. The place
he has worked for over 26 years, Souvenir Pen and Pencil was
completely flooded too. They started to move the machinery back that
they had taken to factories they own in Wisconsin and Minnesota when
they found out that neither their insurance company nor FEMA were
going to reimburse them. They told the freight haulers to turn around
and take it back where they had picked it up. After they complete the
clean up they are going to close the place down and not reopen it.  He
says he may just collect unemployment while he weighs his options and
decides if he even wants to stay in Cedar Rapids.

He, like a lot of those directly effected, has been fighting the anger
and depression that comes because of such a loss.

He gave us a Yucca plant and some Hostas he'd planted around his house
many years ago.

Laurie has to drive through one of the areas hardest hit by the flood
when she goes to and from work. About 20 blocks from where we live
there is a house that is halfway out in the street and has been ever
since the flood. The devastation is unbelievable to anyone who has
never seed the after effects of this kind of flooding.

We feel that we are very fortunate. So many families have lost
everything. They say it was a once in 500 year flood. Let us hope it
is another 500 years before anything like this happens again.

Ben, how have you been doing these past months?
Signature

Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
 ~

Alan S - 29 Aug 2008 22:40 GMT
>>Great to see that you are recovered & still your old onery self. Did the
>>Iowa floods affect you????
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>everything. They say it was a once in 500 year flood. Let us hope it
>is another 500 years before anything like this happens again.

Thanks for your description Chuck, glad you're OK but Mother
nature certainly reminds us who is the real boss; never wise
to forget her. Sorry to hear about your friends.

I know exactly what that's like, I grew up in a flood town,
Grafton NSW; as a teen I once spent the night with a crew in
a boat rowing our streets to break into houses and lift
furniture and goods above the waterline. Another time I came
home on leave and had to wade, then swim, home. We learned
to live with them; but we never enjoyed them and houses in
flood areas had no insurance.

Best wishes for your friends, and for your own quick
recovery.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Be Smart, Be Skeptical)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_s/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (Two Indian Hotels: to Sleep, Perchance..)
DonnaB shallotpeel - 29 Aug 2008 11:58 GMT
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:23:43 -0400, in
<9NOdnQcia5lN3SrVnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com> "Ben Skversky"
<bskv19114@comcast.net> wrote:

>Chuck, it's nice to see that you're still around. Most of the old crowd from
>a few years ago seems to have vanished from this board. But I see that Guy
>is still posting his inane junk.

Hey, nice t' meet ya. I'm new as of June 2006.

Signature

DonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*>
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
Current ................... HbA1c 6.3  Byetta 5x2 begun 08-01-08

Ben Skversky - 29 Aug 2008 13:22 GMT
Great to meet you to, Donna.

> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:23:43 -0400, in
> <9NOdnQcia5lN3SrVnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@comcast.com> "Ben Skversky"
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Hey, nice t' meet ya. I'm new as of June 2006.
John C. - 29 Aug 2008 16:35 GMT
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:06:56 -0700 (PDT), "John C."
>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not really as ticked about the OTness as the hypocritical tone Guy has
been dispaying lately Chuck. I really don't mind OT posts. Just OT
posts from someone who posted minutes before about reading the FAQ.
Lol!

John C.
Ben Skversky - 29 Aug 2008 01:37 GMT
He's been doing this for years.

On Aug 28, 2:40 am, g...@consolidated.net wrote:
> In 1951 while in the Army I had a layover in Washington.
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>  >100,000 Newsgroups
> ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

OK, you post that people should read the FAQ from another NG or not
post here. Then, you proceed to post things which have absolutely
nothing to do with diabetes.

If you have a problem with the government, please vent your
frustrations on the many NGs and message boards devoted to such
topics.

John C.
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2009 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.