http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-can
cer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
Makes me wonder if taking pills that destroy things like Candida would also
do the trick.
pumpkin - 24 Aug 2008 22:47 GMT
uh, now, this kind of "research" you can, er, bypass. "most common form of
death," though is a classic. I think that's the kind where the organism
ceases to move, breathe,
or show brain/cardiac activity. Yep, that would be the most common form.
LOL!
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-can
cer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
>
> Makes me wonder if taking pills that destroy things like Candida would
> also do the trick.
Mary Fisher - 25 Aug 2008 10:07 GMT
> uh, now, this kind of "research" you can, er, bypass. "most common form of
> death," though is a classic. I think that's the kind where the organism
> ceases to move, breathe,
> or show brain/cardiac activity. Yep, that would be the most common form.
> LOL!
What's an uncommon form of death then?
Mary
pumpkin - 26 Aug 2008 04:52 GMT
>> uh, now, this kind of "research" you can, er, bypass. "most common form
>> of death," though is a classic. I think that's the kind where the
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> What's an uncommon form of death then?
I know of only one form of death but Karen Quinlan and Terri Schiavo made
things more complicated. In the "end" though, it came down to the basics.
.
> Mary
Tim Jackson - 24 Aug 2008 22:49 GMT
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-can
cer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
>
> Makes me wonder if taking pills that destroy things like Candida would also
> do the trick.
It won't. It won't even cure Candidiasis, although it may remove a
cause of it.
It's one thing to say that a retrospective meta-analysis of clinical
trials suggests that chemotherapy only give a five year prolongation of
life in a few percent of cases. It is completely other to suggest that
a simple household chemical will cure most cancers.
Firstly, the statistics can be confusing even if we take them at face
value. This is 2% of all patients, many of who did not even get
chemotherapy in the first place, it did not say 2% of those receiving
chemotherapy. Secondly, no-one claims chemotherapy is a cure. It is
supposed to increase expected survival, and there is nothing in these
figures to say that those receiving chemotherapy did not live longer.
What the cited article was about was suggesting that the prescribing
criteria for chemotherapy could do with being reviewed in the light of
the relatively high survival rate nowadays, in the case of breast cancer
mainly due to improvements in hormone therapy.
There have been and are many people touting cancer 'cures' on the
internet. Some are misguided, some are crooks. What they have in
common is a lack of any sort of published clinical trials or statistical
evidence for the effectiveness of their cures. Usually they offer
excuses such as "the establishment is trying to suppress their discovery".
If such a cure existed, then people would be beating a path to his door,
and the drug companies would be busy trying to produce a repackaged
refined patentable product from it, not to suppress it.
Here is a comment on this one.
http://www.cancertreatmentwatch.org/reports/simoncini.shtml
And I don't know why he claims to have difficulty finding statistics on
conventional cancer treatments. I don't. That is a criticism of his
research skills, not of medicine as a whole.
"Most people" are not given a 50/50 chance of dying from cancer. Even
the average lifetime risk for cancer patients, never mind "most people",
isn't that high, it's more like 30%. But it's pretty meaningless,
everyone will die of cancer eventually if they don't die of something
else first.
Tim
pumpkin - 25 Aug 2008 01:26 GMT
candida albicans has also been "blamed" for autism, CFS, fibromyalgia, and
any number of other ills.
quackwatch is kept soooo busy.
>> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-can
cer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
>>
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> Tim
Tim Jackson - 25 Aug 2008 09:59 GMT
> candida albicans has also been "blamed" for autism, CFS, fibromyalgia, and
> any number of other ills.
>
> quackwatch is kept soooo busy.
Researching alternative medicine on the internet is dark wizardry of the
seventh level. The best advice to newbies is extreme scepticism, to
believe NOTHING you read until you have read EVERYTHING written on the
subject. And then to apply common sense, and consider how the world
would work if your conclusion were true.
"Scientific method" means proposing a theory and then doing everything
in your power to *disprove* it; and when you succeed, start again. It works.
Tim
Mary Fisher - 25 Aug 2008 10:22 GMT
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-can
cer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
>
> Makes me wonder if taking pills that destroy things like Candida would
> also do the trick.
Makes me wonder why you choose to believe that website and not others.
Mary
pumpkin - 26 Aug 2008 04:53 GMT
exactamundo.
Maybe she took Rev. Dodgson's advice to believe at least four improbable
things before breakfast.
>> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-can
cer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
>>
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> Mary
Maria - 25 Aug 2008 14:59 GMT
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-can
cer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
>
> Makes me wonder if taking pills that destroy things like Candida would
> also do the trick.
I think our new scaremongerer Aggie has just shown her intellectual
credentials here. This bit of buffonery reminds me of the shameful
government campaign in South Africa to promote fresh fruit and vitamins as a
cure for AIDS. Cancer patients, AIDs patients they all die of ignorance,
you know, and quacks, of course, are not in it for gain, ha!
María
Maria - 25 Aug 2008 15:24 GMT
An antidote to this tomfoolery:
http://www.cancertreatmentwatch.org/reports/simoncini.shtml
Regards
María
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-can
cer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl
>
> Makes me wonder if taking pills that destroy things like Candida would
> also do the trick.
Mary Fisher - 25 Aug 2008 16:31 GMT
> An antidote to this tomfoolery:
> http://www.cancertreatmentwatch.org/reports/simoncini.shtml
>
> Regards
>
> María
Thanks, María.
Mary
pumpkin - 26 Aug 2008 04:55 GMT
I feel authentic sadness for Aggie, her confusion and frustration and terror
are palpable even via fiberoptic cable. Fear is a powerful thing. But then,
so is joy.
> An antidote to this tomfoolery:
> http://www.cancertreatmentwatch.org/reports/simoncini.shtml
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>> Makes me wonder if taking pills that destroy things like Candida would
>> also do the trick.